the federal gas tax -- let's talk about one tax. the federal gas tax. it goes to the highway trust fund. it hasn't gone up in 20 years. but the cost of road repair and road construction has gone up 55%. >> you don't think a lot more people would drive? >> i think that the gas tax -- >> you think just because it hasn't been touched for 20 years -- >> it is declining revenue source because our cars are more fuel efficient -- >> what about -- >> that's not what we're talking about, we're talking about one thing -- >> no, no, no, that's part of it -- >> you need more money, you have other resource, why to you need more money? >> you do need more because since 2008, the general fund has contributed $41 billion to the federal highway trust fund. you're asking people, you're basically -- drivers are not paying their way -- >> wait, let me just finish one thing -- >> wait, let me -- >> i pay 12 bucks a day. i'm not using up -- >> you don't know that for a fact. we are not paying -- >> so you are for what this congressman -- you're agreeing with a guy who has a